Negotiate Your Best Deal!

There are several keys to negotiating:
1. Dont get discouraged and never make it personal. Remember that a salesmans job is to make the most money possible and your job is to buy the vehicle as cheap as possible. Also, remember a salesman makes 30% of the profit. It is always nice to arrive at a win-win situation. The dealership has to make money to stay in business, but you can get a fair deal at the same time.

2. Know in advance how much you are willing to pay for the vehicle. Start lower than that point and hopefully meet around that point. A salesman is going to start high and come down, hopefully reaching your threshold. But, do not look at a $25000 vehicle and think you can buy it for $15000. There is definitely not this type of markup unless there are large rebates on a new car.

3. Do not have second thoughts if you make an offer and the deal is taken. Many times salesman will go to the manager and say this is the most the customer will pay for the vehicle and the manager will so ok, go ahead and do the deal. Just because the deal is taken quickly does not mean you offered too much!

4. When a salesman leaves to get your price and is gone for several minutes, do not think this a plot to keep you waiting. On any given day, there may only be one manager on the desk working 5 deals. It takes a little time because you have to wait your turn. I can say there is no gain in making a customer wait.

5. Dont be afraid to make an offer. Many customers will say they have to go look at other vehicles because they are fearful of negotiating. This is the fun part of buying a car. Make it enjoyable. Write your offer on the buyers order and put a smiley face or write a little note, maybe the sales manager will find this humerous and take your deal.

6. Make it easy on yourself. Know what price you should pay when you go in. Check out Yahoo! Autos to get a quote on the vehicle you are looking at. A real quick form to save a bunch of bucks!

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CCWS and Ford End 24 Year Relationship

Champ Car has shown Ford the exit ending a relationship that began in 1982.

With that will go the pace car team an those great rides we all liked so much. Seen the new LOGO .........not a mention of Ford!

Champ Car claims to have another manufacturere lined up to become presenting sponsor????

But wait there's more.........Champ Car says the pace cars rides are being replaced by Stoddart's F1 two seaters.

WickerBill sez;

Well there's a real head scratcher!

Sebring Session Four Testing Times

Bourdais........50.888
Tracy............50.960
Legge............51.060
Junqueria.......51.108
Dominguez....51.166
Wilson..........51.273
Rahal............51.631
Power...........51.839
Jani...............51.930

Tagliani.........51.973
Philippe.........52.410
Figge.............52.531

Dalziel...........53.760
Vasser...........55.841

Sebring Session Three Testing Times

Bourdais.......51.307
Domingeuz...51.318
Wilson.........51.485
Tracy...........51.517
Vasser.........51.520
Jani..............51.533
Legge..........51.610
Rahal...........51.973
Power.........52.238

Tagliani........52.448
Doornbos....52.575

Dalziel.........53.217
Figge...........53.796

Junqueira.....53.927

Sebring Session Two Testing Times

Bourdais.......51.024
Jani...............51.620
Tracy............51.708
Dominguez....51.717
Wilson...........51.773
Vasser...........51.814
Rahal.............51.837
Pagenaud.......51.989
Legge............52.110
Tagliani..........52.854
Doornbos .....52.912
Dalziel ..........54.048

Sebring Session One Testing Times

Legge........... 52.166
Wilson......... 52.426
Pagenaud..... 52.528
Dominguez... 52.529
Bourdais...... 52.581
Tracy........... 52.763
Rahal........... 53.125
Doornbos ....53.195
Vasser......... 53.634
Dalziel .........56.421
Figge........... 57.260
Jani............. 58.118
Tagliani..... 1:15.893

IRL-CCWS Merger, Merger Go Away.........Forever?

With testing beginning tomorrow let's get this foolishness out of the way now so when May comes around we can concentrate on racing!

Originally written in 2004 it still applicable today!!!!



Perhaps the term reunification is adding to open wheel racing’s problems. Reunification implies that at some time in the past there was unity. Reunification, it would seem, suggests a return to that unity. Does anyone remember the blissful co-existence of CART and the IRL. I don’t’ think so! Okay, let’s call this proposed getting together of these businesses a merger, or buy out, or perhaps you prefer to take the business edge off and refer to it as unification. Whatever term you prefer there’s no escaping the fact that CCWS and IRL are businesses with all the trappings and their products are the sport of open wheel racing.

When one looks at CCWS and IRL strictly from the business view you can’t help but realize how frail they both are. Hard core racing fans, no matter which side they affiliate with, tend to be blinded to frailty of these businesses. Either or both could easily fail. Auto racing is very expensive and requires funding from many sources. Someone once said if you want to make a small fortune in racing you will need to start with a big one!

When CART was formed there were some very successful business people involved yet in the end they were not able to generate a meaningful and lasting growth so the business wound in up in bankruptcy court. However those same founders have continued to operate and lead their personal businesses with astounding success. They had a nice run with CART until the IRL came along. In business this is called competition. It was not just competition though, there was plenty of that from NASCAR and others, but this was direct competition in the form of open wheel racing. The business of CART failed to recognize the IRL as competition and went about racing as before and finally went bankrupt. What’s difficult to understand is how this group of extraordinarily successful businessmen with their independent successes could have failed so dismally in this joint venture. They all must have good business acumen, yet as a group that business acumen must have been somehow gotten cancelled.

For a business to succeed it must make money, what other reason would there be for a business to exist? So long as CART was a public corporation their profitability, or lack of, was public knowledge. Determining the financial status of a private company is difficult at best so we aren’t likely to know much more than they want us to about them. Yes, it’s possible to set up a similar business on paper and plug in some expense and revenue estimates and make a good guess but that’s all it is - a guess. The CCWS and the IRL can be infused with private money until the owners run out or they can be made profitable by the use of good business practices and we aren’t likely to know for sure which is the case. If the owners have to continue funding the business then it is not likely to continue for very long. If either CCWS or IRL, or both, can execute a solid business plan then the fans will be rewarded with continuation of open wheel racing in this country.

With the two series beginning to look like gas stations on opposite side of the street it will surely be difficult for both series to survive. There may not be enough fans left to support one series let alone two. On the other hand if two businesses are managed properly perhaps they can both grow their respective fan and sponsorship bases, both of which are badly needed to assure the continuation of open wheel racing in this country.

There have been many suggestions as to how to combine (reunify?) the two series, but so far all we have is an agreement to disagree, whatever that is. Perhaps the combined series would be the best solution but then again maybe not. Competition is good for business, what would the quality of the products we buy be like without it. There are many businesses whose products are similar if not the same. Can two open wheel racing series survive? In time we should know. The future of open wheel racing in this country is in the hands of four individuals. Three of whom were successful in other business before forming a new racing series. Does this sound familiar? The other has used the family money to form a racing series and has never really demonstrated business success in any market.

Perhaps it was never meant to be, if open wheel racing was profitable wouldn’t there have been other investors lining up to get a piece of the action. Is open wheel racing just the floundering stepchild of wealthy egomaniacs that aren’t interested in anything but being king? For the sake of this 50 year fan of open wheel racing and all other fans, I hope someone figures out how to make it work.

Bill Sheets © Copyright 2004

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